Vehicle To Grid: How Disruptive Will It Be? | Palo Alto, CA
April 7th, 2010 (8.30am - 12pm)
Palo Alto, California, USA
Topic: Energy, Smart Grid, Transportation
Event Type: Conference, Training/Seminar
Tags: electric vehicles, grid, Vehicle To Grid
Topics:
- V2G, the science and mechanics:
What are the software and control systems necessary for successful V2G? Will this be created independent of Utilities and/or electric vehicle manufacturers?
What are the electric vehicle’s specifications that we need to improve upon to make V2G realistic?
What are the safety issues involved in V2G?
What new systems and analytics are necessary in light of V2G?
- V2G, the market and incentives:
The two-way communication of V2G allows a vehicle or fleet of vehicles to serve as an auxiliary service asset on the grid.
What regulatory issues does this raise?
What economic issues does this raise?
Will electric vehicle drivers make enough money to offset the added costs of EV’s?
Will V2G be the driver of the electric vehicle market?
What new apps will V2G enable?
- Pilot Projects:
What are the current pilot projects? What is their status?
Agenda
8:30am PST Reception/Networking
9:00am PST Keynote: Tom Gage, CEO & President AC Propulsion
9:20am PST Panel Discussion Begins
10:20am PST End of Panel Discussion: Q&A from the audience
11:00am PST Networking, snacks and beverages
12:00pm PST End of Seminar
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Super Vehicle to Grid (Super V2G) Cars as Powerful Power Plants!
A Vehicle to Grid (V2G) Toyota Scion hybrid was demonstrated at the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting February 19th. It was equipped with a 2 way plug and could sell 10 kW of electricity, to power aggregator PJM for the local utility, at the rate of $30 per hour. PJM stated the car could earn up to $1,800 per year for its owner.
Second generation V2G automobiles, with better batteries, might be able to provide as much as 25 kW using a two way plug. It has been estimated that owners of such vehicles might earn as much as $3,000 per year.
We are developing what could become Third generation V2G vehicles. Steven Letendre, a V2G analyst at Green Mountain College, has termed our work Super V2G. Future cars and trucks will be able to provide up to 150 kW with a wireless connection to suitably equipped parking spaces. Payments to owners may very well be sufficient to pay for the vehicle.
These breakthroughs may make possible the elimination of the need for batteries of every variety. As a harbinger of the future, an early MagGen™ is expected to first demonstrate the ability to replace the need to plug-in a plug-in hybrid. Two kilowatts is all the power that can be taken from a typical wall socket. A pair of one kilowatt MagGens might demonstrate a compact, inexpensive, capability to end the need to plug-in. This will relieve the concern that plug-in electric and hybrid vehicles would depend on power generated using fossil or nuclear fuel.
A SPICE™ (Self Powered Internal Combustion Engine), in hybrid cars and trucks can run when parked, spinning a generator. Fueled by small quantities of demineralized water, an ECHO™ (Energy from Collapsing Hydrogen Orbits) fueled SPICE is one of two Super V2G systems presently on the horizon.
MagGen powered cars are expected to be capable of initially generating at least 75 kW and later 100 kW. In the case of luxury cars, trucks and buses 150 kW will prove practical. MagGen is potentially a second Chava Super V2G system.
A substantial number of vehicles powered by MagGen, or its water sipping counterpart, an ECHO fueled SPICE, in a parking area or garage – will transform the array of parked vehicles into a multi-megawatt power plant. The average vehicle is parked 95% of the time.
These breakthroughs will be greeted with understandable skepticism by anyone with science training. However, fractional Hydrogen, trademarked as ECHO, has had some validation at Rowan University and GEN3 Partners. More is needed. The national laboratories would be excellent venues for definitive evaluations of both fractional Hydrogen and even harder to believe magnetic generators.
The economics are likely to prove compelling. Until now, car ownership has been an expense. Vehicle to Grid power will change that dramatically. Doubtless, when millions of cars and trucks are selling power to the grid, the price per kilowatt paid will gradually decline. However, it still seems likely that the cost of many vehicles might be paid for by utilities. The parked cars, trucks and buses, each become decentralized power plants – a rapid, cost-effective alternative to the many tough and costly environmental challenges of constructing new coal burning and nuclear power generation facilities.
Utilities, as well as vehicle manufacturers, will have a unique opportunity to lead the nation and the world into a dramatic reduction in the need for oil. Imagine a 24/7 development program.
It’s a bit hard to be developing vehicle power systems when by your own admission you do not have any devices to supply the power to those systems. You do not have and have never had any device that generates a net Watt or even milliWatt. The systems you say are expected to produce 75kW – 150kW are only expected to do so by those foolish enough to give you money without first doing due diligence on your long running fantasy claims of miracle power generators. You’ve been crying the siren call of “next year” for so many years now that even PESN warns of your “perpetual year”.